Grumpy Grumps (anti-holdless?)

[lee]

Because I NEED more threads to take forever to reply to...

Falen is not so happy with these scummy, tricksy, untrustworthy, sketchy, dragon-murdering holdless candidates, not at all. So, I'm willing to have her play snarling antagonist if anyone would like, and I was wondering if anyone else had characters that feel the same? Because if so, maybe we can have a thread where come nasty accusations get aired over dinner and the holdless kiddos could get their chance to either stir something up and risk their candidacy or have to suck it up and behave/find more subtle creative ways to respond. By herself, Falen is likely to sneer and do her best to be unfair/give the worst chores she can think of, but she'd need a group of like-minded folks before truly stirring up a scene.

Now, I say all this with the full knowledge there would likely be IC consequences for troublemakers. Falen's certainly willing to risk it--anyone else?

[Azhdarchid]

I'm not going to promise he would act out in the middle of a busy dining hall (even though he's done it before), but Falen might find this guy's input helpful for anti-holdless causes.

For now I just post him as another PC recruit for the antis.

[Lan]

Azzy called me here. <3

LAN'S LIST OF CHARACTERS WITH ANTI-HOLDLESS TENDENCIES:

1. S'in of Green Nemeth. He is in cahoots with Q'sis on most things, however, and Nemeth is vengeful.

2. L'and of Blue Direth. Mostly, L'and is just prejudiced against them and more than a little afraid of them.

3. Lillis of Pink Stresakorth. Lillis has judged them SUSPICIOUS until they have proven themselves.

4. Darryl of Green Dask. Darryl is more interested in protecting his family than anything, but he has some ill thoughts on the matter of holdless.

5. WAROTH IS MAD ABOUT THE HERDBEASTS... All candidates that are holdless are being SUPER GLARED AT before being permitted into her nest of kidpets.

[Boo]

1. Rayna is neutral. She doesn't trust the holdless on merit but she wouldn't speak out against them because of how things are at the moment.

2. Z'is is passively not keen on the holdless. He wouldn't speak out but neither would he be able to move to defend any of them. He is a little too quiet to let his thoughts be known though and doesn't like stirring the pot.

3. C'at is scared of them

4. Fel is actually conflicted

5. Ezzia doesn't like them because they smell.

6. Tedaon doesn't like the holdless because he's dealt with injuries from holdless before and has seen a lot in his life. He just doesn't much trust them and would possibly question their trustworthiness.

7. Hulair is NOT keen at all. He has suffered from injuries from holdless, has spent time protecting the Hold from them and has possibly even been injured by these people. I do not quite know if he is in the Weyr yet but he would not be keen to make friends with any of them.

8. Agrippith hates them because they are lower class and ruining everything OKAY!

[kireon]

1. H'lios of Blue Nelideth: He knows the most Holdless come from less than scrupulous backgrounds, and when he has time, he's keeping an eye on them. Nelideth is essentially prepared to start dropping people off the sides of mountains if they so much as turn a threatening look on to H'lios, though anyone who caters to his ego is looked upon slightly more favorably.

2. Durian of Brown Mesreath: She's likely the one stalking them when she's not busy covering/pulling major overtime on Wingsecond duty to make sure O'sho can spend as much tim with Fajra as possible. Considering her master of disguise talents, it's highly likely they've met her before- in one of many, many roles she's signed herself up for. (Could always be a fun plot to play out too!) Mesreath's opinion isn't well known, but he tends to swell up like an enraged toad when they're around- and his eyes stay in the darker red areas while he watches them.

3. Aylina of Tan Wenth: She's not necessarily anti-Holdless, but she kind of frowny faces about the situation and the timing. Wenth could not possibly care less about what rank is or is not, and is content so long as the children are cared for/fed and properly bathed. Aylina is baffled by this newfound interest her dragon has in others' hygienic practices.

4. Cilia of Bronze Cilisk doesn't have as strong an opinion about the Holdless as one might think, she's more inclined to give people the chance to prove themselves rather than attach stigma due to circumstances usually outside their control. Cilisk, on the other hand, wants nothing to do with them and believes they should be rounded up and monitored day in and day out until it's proven they truly mean no harm. As a result, probably isn't unusual to have Cilia and Cilisk keeping tabs to make sure no naughty children are sneaking out when they're not hunting or on patrol.

5. Impa of Black Impask; yeah, no. She's against the Holdless 100% and has actually given permission to Impask to terrify them half out of their skins if they catch them out past curfew without probable cause. Impask thinks this will be the best game ever.

6. Yuri has misgivings, as he's seen the results of some particularly violent Holdless encounters in the past. However, children are children and he believes that they are more than redeemable, even if they come from a bloody or otherwise darkened heritage. Yusk doesn't get any of it and is just happy she gets more babies in her nest.

[Reky]

Samael would be wary of them, but only because of Q'sis' strong opinions. She herself is not as judgmental, but she's been weary lately and gives more of the important decision-making and character-judging to Q and Naireth.

Osine would not be fond of the holdless on principle.

Carlis, however, would hate them quite fervently. He's very sly and tactful, though, so he wouldn't be prone to an outburst - but he'd play a very good, sneaky sidekick and provide enough sarcastic and backhanded comments.

[Rappu]

1) Ana dislikes and pities the Holdless because they're dirty and uncivilized. Dalahirath doesn't care but will partage any gossip.

2) Lauriesk is SUPER SUSPICIOUS. Laurierd doesn't mind them but her wher has classed them as orange alert threat.

3) Are they goffs or preppies? D'mitr is welcoming because OH NEW MEMBERS FOR THE BIG DALIBOR FAMILY but Dem regards them with a suspicious eye.

4) M'dag frets and worries, Barahath is all right with them. As long as they're nice to M'dag.

5) Calmera expects them to prove themselves. Any candidates will get extra chores. Minanth dislikes their grubby hands and considers them dangerous, which can lead to tantrums.

6) Draolor is okay and will likely stand up for the holdless if they're bullied.

[Maggie]

Genner is highly suspicious of the Holdless, but can't hate them because of Mouse.

G'lin doesn't like them one bit and makes sure Ana doesn't come into contact with them.

Dawn doesn't care that much, but she wouldn't have much contact with them, being a new Weyrling.

Kaydian is afraid of his own shadow, so Holdless are very traumatising.

Idra IS holdless, soooooo....

Maelie est a little wary, but they're poor children who need feeding and love, so she tends to mother them and bring them nutricious snacks.

[shay]

1) Aedai, as a holdless obviously is outwardly for her own people. She has a strong sense of loyalty toward what she considers her family as well, so she'll defend them. She's not one to try and hurt someone else though physically, but she'll argue. Inwardly though, she's never felt entirely right about them and has only stuck there so far because it's the only way of life she's known.

2) Nymora doesn't really like them. She doesn't really like most people though, so that's not too much of a difference. She does like understanding people's back-stories, so she may find it amusing to see what happens. For the most part though, she'd be more quick to anger toward them than in their defense.

3) Ku'ki is being made right now, but I'd imagine he'd either be neutral and completely uncaring about the whole thing. Or, prodding various members of both parties to see what happens and observing the outcomes.

[Raining]

Aleksandr is sort of on the edge, but he won't make accusations unless it was proven.
But I don't think he'd stand up for them.

Saowyn... is holdless XD If someone spoke to her directly she wouldn't hesitate to respond, probably coldly. If she was just spoken "at" as in someone was not trying to cover up that they were referring to her group... she'd seethe silently. Saosk.. LOL will probably want to say something haha.

[fellis]

Rilga is probably very suspicious of the Holdless; she was raised in a conservative environment and she also values hard work, and thinks that the Holdless are just bumming off the Weyr. But she's too nice to really make a fuss about it!

On the other side of the coin, Diorell would have a hard time staying quiet if someone was making a scene about the Holdless, and he wouldn't be nice about it either. I'm also willing to have him try to steal something or start a gambling ring or something else to incite more dislike for the Holdless in the Weyr. xD

[princesal]

W'lin would normally be one to dismiss the Holdless immediately, or be rude to them. He wants to be better though, so he'll be oddly more accepting of them than normal. It doesn't help that his weyrmate has adopted a mini one.

Andakora will be the one that gives any Holdless the most difficulties. She won't search to antagonize them, but just like that, she won't go searching for them at all. If anything, she'll try to avoid it, and take care of Lemminkath.

T'ris would be curious about them, but nervous.

D'nari won't dislike them unless someone gives him a good reason. If G'lin were to come up with reason, he'd dislike them just on the principal of those being good reasons to dislike a group of people.

[Chimera]

R'lan is pretty scared and unsure of the Holdless, as well as Ainoth. He is just gonna stay away from them.

Nora is pretty peppy but...she's also scared. She will try to give them a chance though. Aypoth is scared but considers Mouse an adorable pupil.

Lirmox is a former Holdless but he will "charm" people with his "charm" to convince people they're not evil because he just wants to stop this whole dumb fighting saga. He, as Mouse's cousin, is also guarding her so Faranth forbid someone try and insult her. Lirmox's pet Midnight is flitter Batman so he will also try to bring JUSTICE. FLITMAN AND RYSKBIN

Dardranel is conflicted, but she can easily be swayed to either side of the conflict by someone else.

[Maggie]

Oh Mouse is under guard of Gennesk. If anyone insults her, there will be an angry brown wher rampage

[Chimera]

There's an entire team of bodyguards for Mouse now. :P

[princesal]

The kid is going to have an Iron dragon watching out for her too (he likes miniatures, and Mouse is pretty mini).

[turkoizdog]

Meena is happy because yay more friends! Also she firmly believes everyone deserves a second chance so she's very pro-holdless and will help and defend any and all of them.
Tredecimth is cool with them, he thinks his curse is what killed the herdbeasts.

Salina is too old to care. As long as none of them steal her cats, she's fine.

Zynn thinks it may be another conspiracy, but he doesn't have a specific theory yet. Any other conspiracy theorists? :3

M'ax is on edge. He wants to give them a second chance, but at the same time they are friends and family of known criminals. He wants to trust them, but he wants to be ready in case they do something. Ephesuth mostly just thinks that they shouldn't be convicted of anything re herdbeasts without proof, and those who are innocent should be okay.

[lee]

OKIE DOKIE.

So I finally got around to this. Falen has made her opinions very clear, very loudly, and within ear range of anyone else eating dinner here. Even if your character isn't quite as uh, vocal, as she is, maybe some side conversations could start? Maybe you agree, disagree, whatever Maybe her, uh, enthusiasm pushes your character one way or the other if they were on the fence? Have discussions! I have a feeling Falen's not quite done, and I'm aware she's probably going to get in trouble buuuut controversy. Yup.

Holdless (or former Holdless, rather) would be able to hear Falen, at least, and she's not exactly being subtle, so, feel free to confront her! Or to grumble amongst yourselves or take it in stony SILENCE whatever what have you. Run free!!

[Raining]

If anyone holdless/or you know Saowyn feel free to have her there beside your character.
I do plan on posting <3