Nia
Sr. Weyrwoman
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Post by Nia on Sept 9, 2013 1:20:22 GMT -5
{desc=Discussion thread} Okay, Dalibor! So, your new Weyrleader is a bit of an issue, and people are going to have some VERY STRONG opinions about him.
However, the Weyr likely won't be in agreement over this. There's going to be a lot of tension between the Weyr, with people who support D'lios being the Weyrleader and those who don't. Feel free to have your character support him! He won that flight fair and square (or did he?) and it's his right to run both. But, of course, that's not exactly very traditional nor is it practical.
What side are your characters on? Discuss in this thread, create your own drama and schemes based on the abrupt change in Weyrleadership. Arguments and fights are sure to break out, so this is a good excuse to have one.
This is also an excuse for you to drop characters, as I'm sure many people will transfer out of Dalibor as a result. If you wish to drop a character, please say so and post their name in bold below.
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Reky
Alphahandler
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Post by Reky on Sept 9, 2013 1:27:14 GMT -5
C'lis is devoutly pro-D'lios, and Risny is as well, although she's not particularly educated in the matter. Most of my other characters will, as the story progresses, be more anti-D'lios - Audren will be, and R'len is hesitant about him.
C'lis is the big player though. He's kinda held back by being a weyrling though, which is too bad for him - but every spare moment he can spend catering to D'lios, he will.
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RhiaBlack
Wingrider
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Post by RhiaBlack on Sept 9, 2013 3:39:49 GMT -5
Updated to clarify and adjust some opinions:
Z'dyn: Is from there, and while he's not overly sure about the whole 'being in two places at once' mentality, he has to side with D'lios just because it's his old Hold. He helped establish the place. In all truth, he's more pissed off at Avalle for not controlling Callistath / showing up when it was obvious Callistath was going to Rise soon in the first place. Though, he only ever says anything about that to people he's close to (exception being Nara, because he knows she hates the guy and he'd rather avoid a throw-down).
He's also looking at it in the standpoint that Perbiath took the antidote too, so to call the Lord Holder a cheater isn't fair. His Brown just managed better than the competitors, doesn't mean he cheated. It means other people understood the risks when they took the antidote, yet still want to hold it against him because they lost and he won. And we know how Z'dyn is with hypocrisy.
N'tharon: Relatively passive on the matter, but still a bit disgruntled that people would be accosting/talking crap about Avalle, when it was her Dragon who ultimately made the decision. Sintharith can be headstrong sometimes, too, so he knows what it's like to deal with someone who won't take no for an answer. Add to that it's a Gold, and he's feeling pretty sympathetic for Avalle.
Lili's too unaccustomed to traditions and such to really care, but she's outspoken enough to probably have issues with anyone who speaks out against it. She wasn't there to see what happened, so she's going strictly on what she's heard. Mostly that he won the Flight, so why shouldn't he be given the usual role that fits that situation? What, just because he's a Lord Holder? In that case, people should be more irritated that there's a Rider who is also a Lord Holder to begin with...
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Boo
Jr. Weyrwoman
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Post by Boo on Sept 9, 2013 4:32:49 GMT -5
If a character isn't here then they proooobably don't really care too much ^-^
Rayna hates D'lios in case people didn't get that haha She believes that D'lios poisoned their dragons in order to take power and control. Therefore she fully and wholly distrusts D'lios and would probably find it difficult to hold this in when in his presence.
Kire is nervous but more because of the division amongst the Weyr rather than the fact that he is Weyrleader. Kisk am love though!
Hulair is loyal to the core. He supports everything D'lios does and thinks it's absolutely fantastic that he is in the Weyr now as it were. D'lios will be able to keep everyone in line and stop wher hatchings where his kids get traumatised clearly.
C'at trusts him because he's a Lord Holder and therefore quite capable of running a large place as far as he is concerned.
Tedaon, the grump he is, doesn't like it one bit. Normally he wouldn't care but it hits a raw nerve that in the Flight dragons were falling out of the sky and a brown ultimately won. He doesn't much care for brownriders as a rule.
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kireon
Candidatemaster
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Post by kireon on Sept 9, 2013 4:40:57 GMT -5
Kira is not apologizing for the sheer length of this because OPINIONS!
*crackes knuckles and throws down the list of characters*
Yuri: He is neither for nor against D'lios at this point, he is terribly busy ensuring the futures of Nimara, Jazz and his Candidates' futures and preparing them as best he possibly can. As long as the man doesn't burn the Weyr to the ground or interfere with the way the three of them are taking care of said future? There is no issue. (Neutral)
H'lios: A Lord Holder has entirely too many responsibilities towards the people of the Hold they're in charge of to be concerned with Weyr politics; the man may have won the Flight, but another should replace him as official Weyrleader. Granted, none of this is stated aloud, but that's his personal opinion on the matter. At this stage, he is more against D'lios than for him, however, as long as D'lios doesn't interfere in his wing and Thread drills? He will remain coldly impartial. (Or so he will come across to those in his Wing; those who speak for or against during drills or actual Fall will be disciplined accordingly for having too much time on their hands and for losing their focus!) (Against)
Aylina: She isn't sure what to think. It seems suspicious to her that D'lios' dragon flew the best out of everyone despite supposedly having been given the same antidote as the rest. However, she will not openly voice her dissent or discomfort. She's worried about the Weyr and that's about that. (Against)
Willow: Willow is worried about the new Weyrleader; absolute power corrupts absolutely, and she's heard rumors even from her tiny cothold near Nerat that D'lios isn't exactly out for anyone but himself in the long run. Of course, finding Willow is a pain in the butt at the time being, as she's become quite adept at being a ninja and disappearing immediately after drills, Fall practice/routes and hasn't been seen with her meals in the Dining hall in forever. (Against)
Kae'n: Kae'n's busy writing songs about things while Toonooth keeps eating said songs or otherwise destroying them. Toonooth also thinks someone else should deal with it, as it's not their problem; Thread is. (Cool with it/tentatively With it)
Rhikail: Rhikail is uninterested in Weyr politics and distinct believes people need to focus on more important matters. (Neutral)
B'zar: Originally from Fort and with much experience dealing with Roha, B'zar knows what happens when there are people ill suited to the job, and he's concerned that D'lios has bitten off far more than he can chew- and that there will be dire consequences as a result. The only ones who will actually hear these concerns will be other members of the Waroth Wonders, and possibly Nimara herself. (Against)
Th'or: Th'or is excited about this development because it's the perfect opportunity for himself and his brother to take advantage of the chaos to get themselves set up and established to further their brotherly dream of RULING TOGETHER. After all, if a Lord Holder can be Lord Holder, rider, and Weyrleader, what's stopping the two of them from accomplishing so much more? (Hint: It's probably Th'or himself.) - (With)
Kairhi: Kairhi's got no idea what this actually means, but she's skeptical about the development; shouldn't a Lord Holder focus on his Hold? (Tentatively Against)
Cilia: She is completely deadset against D'lios' ascension to Weyrleadership. However; she isn't saying anything to anyone. Not to Cilisk, not to Damali, not to Ciali or her patrol partner Kio either. As a matter of fact... she's rather well behaved as of late, one must wonder what she's up to. (Against)
Impa: Skeptical but not necessarily against him. She wants to wait and see if he's good or bad for the Weyr. (Neutral)
Raxeris: He's far too busy trying to keep Raxerisk in line to worry about the changing of the proverbial guard in leadership. Unless D'lios has a way to keep R-risk from being a complete and total trollish pain in his rear end, the man will not be any better or worse than anyone else he's ever seen in leadership. (Neutral)
Jaedrellyn: Curious, he didn't know a Lord Holder had that much free time to be able to devote to a full time position as Weyrleader as well. (Neutral)
Oh, I left someone out?
You mean Durian?
Durian's loyalty is to Avalle, O'sho and Fajra- interpret that as you will and hopefully enjoy the posts and topics that will unfold as time goes on. ^_^
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RavenSong
Jr. Weyrleader
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Post by RavenSong on Sept 9, 2013 5:44:53 GMT -5
P'ryt: While Dalibor is often the Weyr of opportunity, P'ryt feels that the opportunity never should've been afforded to Perbiath even if he is a lonely dragon. While he'll work respectfully with D'lios and maintain professional decorum, he feels that the Weyr and Western Hold will suffer greatly thanks to Perbiath's choice. His opinion of Avalle lessened as well, but only Hemetath would ever know that. (Against)
K'var: He hates the fact that some upstart dimglow from a Hold is a Brownrider. He hates the fact that said upstart somehow managed to get Weyrleadership and thinks D'lios rigged everything. He doesn't voice his opinions around his Weyrlings because he doesn't want to influence them, but any adult rider would get an earful. (Against)
Os'um: He has served under Roha and knows what crappy leaders do to Weyrs. He left one Weyr over a crappy leader. He's not at all happy about dealing with another crappy leader. At least this one can be replaced, though. (Mostly against).
Finavair: She had the biggest crush ever on D'lios when she was younger. She's mildly jealous of Avalle, and will do what she can to support D'lios when talk of him crops up, even if Asuth differs with her. (For)
N'yn: He intends to wait and see what goes on before choosing sides. (Neutral)
Naraevhyn: Absolutely against. Vocally, at that. Any comment about D'lios brings scathing commentary from the Greenrider, the sharp edge of her tongue flaying any dimglow who'd dare side with that duplicitous son-of-a-wherry. The only person spared her temper over D'lios is her weyrmate, but even he gets a fierce emerald glare. O'sho is her Weyrleader, forever and always.(Against)
Lyr: She feels it's too early to judge him and be fair. Depending on what D'lios actually does, her opinion may be swayed. However, as she hasn't lived in his Hold and doesn't know him at all, she states she's neutral. (Neutral)
Davalla: She thinks Lords Holder are evil anyways, having been Holdless and thus a victim of their errant "justice". She won't outright say in case he casts the Holdless out, but she'd love to see him disappear. (Against)
Seph: With the rumors flying around about D'lios, he's not really sure what to think. As a Candidate, he thinks he's not really supposed to say much anyways about the Weyrleader. At least the position's dynamic, instead of static. He feels he can tolerate a poor Weyrleader longer than he could tolerate a poor Weyrwoman, and he hopes D'lios is nothing like Roha. He likes Dalibor as it is. (Neutral, leaning Against)
Pel: She's a traditionalist through and through. A Weyrleader is supposed to be a Kingrider. Nothing more, nothing less. Not a Brownrider. Certainly not a Lord Holder. And Lords Holder shouldn't be riders anyways. If asked her opinion, that's exactly what Pel says before changing the topic. Why debate it? Her opinion won't change. (Against)
Fenrimere: A Lord Holder as Weyrleader? Huh. That's interesting. That's probably the best prank ever. If he didn't do anything bad to get that position, she thinks he's okay. (For)
Mengir: She's too damn skittish to have an opinion. As long as D'lios doesn't come barging into her space to terrify her, she can ignore him. (Neutral)
Cambyses: Outwardly, he seems to give no care to the issue. Between him and Samara, however, he's pretty peeved about the issue. He thinks D'lios is going to harm Dalibor with his underhanded, smarmy ways. He feels that D'lios never should have been a rider to begin with and that Holders who happen to become riders should remain Holders, period. (secretly against)
Naras: This particular Master Harper already has several short ditties written about the issue. Some are for the Lord Holder, some are against. Since he lived in Western for a while, he's seen D'lios' positives and negatives. However, as a Harper, he must remain neutral and record both sides of the history. (Neutral)
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Gray
Wingrider
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Post by Gray on Sept 9, 2013 6:12:32 GMT -5
Doggarel: Dog is a bit suspicious, but then again, who isn't? She is currently more preoccupied with the fact that every. Single. Day. Alitapth re-learned the news of the flight and goes on a huge, angry, yelling rampage about it. She's far too busy dealing with a grouchy red to really devote energy and time to caring either way. {Neutral}
R'ev: R'ev thinks this stinks. It's fishy, and there is something wrong with all this. He doesn't like it. Sugeth doesn't like it. Dainty doesn't like it. They are not open about it, but they will scowl and brood when ever the Brownrider is around them. He thinks this breaks tradition in a horrible way, Lord Holders should never be this powerful. He for sees bad things. {Against}
A'til: Is he a Lord holder? He is? Well A'til hates him. He still holds his prejudice of Lord Holders, even if his stance on Weyrs has shifted. {Against}
Aerie: Aerie doesn't really understand these politics, it's different from her Trader's politics. You just don't win a station of power like that, really. Not back home. So perhaps she doesn't understand the gravity. But she does remember Roha. She does remember how bad things got at Fort, so she is a bit on edge. {Neutral, leaning slightly towards Against.}
Matilda: As a woman of Journalism, Matilda can not hold an opinion on the matter, only deliver facts and rumors to her awaiting audience. But she is eager for the drama that this will bring around! {Neutral}
Dita: Well, he won, right? That's important, right? How many times have female Whers chosen a wild mate? A lot. So, like, he'll give this guy a chance. Can't judge a fish from it's shadow... or something like that. {For}
Kidanyr: OH MY GOSH NO. Kidanyr is 100% certain D'lios obviously set the whole thing up! Any one who can't see it is blind! Or at least wasn't paying attention. Kidanyr was. She knows. Quince, picking up on these feelings, has and will be more obnoxious, because if hers doesn't like something, neither does the green. {Against}
Lliira: Lliira cares about her sheep. D'lios is not a sheep. Plus, her parents live at Western, and in fact, so did she. So she can't really hate him. She doesn't really devote much thought to it.{Tentatively for.}
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princesal
Wingrider
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Poliwogging it up!
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Post by princesal on Sept 9, 2013 7:30:06 GMT -5
D'nari is decidingly neutral about D'lios. He'd rather gather all the information about someone, and the kind of person they are, and what they do, then listen to rumors or go off of someone else's opinion. Unfortunately Enciath doesn't feel the same. She definitely believes that D'lios won unfairly, and that he is poisoning the meat. Because of this, D'nari has developed the idea (cultivated by Enciath) that D'lios is the one responsible for the poison herdbeasts in the first place, and that's why he was the one who brought the antidote. Together they think it happened all to perfectly for him. Enciath is willing to state this if D'lios is brought up in conversation, D'nari doesn't know for sure. [Neutral/Against]
W'lin would have been against D'lios as soon as he won the flight, just because his general trust level is pretty low for people in a changing position of power. He trusts the weyrwoman, but when the position of Weyrleader can change with a flight, he's more comfortable not trusting them any further than he could toss them. Does this mean that he has actual reason to dislike and trust D'lios? No, but that's not going to stop him from scrutinizing everything the man does. He's grateful that the man was able to pull resources to come up with an antidote though, and supports that endevor. He couldn't really care less that D'lios is a Lord Holder, a dragon chose him, and most of the time he trusts a dragon's judgement over a humans. [Depends on issues, generally will be Against]
T'ris is a follower, and knows how weyr life works, and has no reason to mistrust D'lios, so he won't. Schrodith has also decided that D'lios is good after bring a cure in. There will be no complaints heard from either of them (if really any words at all). [With]
Andakora is still a weyrling, and is pretty sure that her judgements don't make a difference, and withholds them. She goes off of fact, not rumors or assumption. If anything, all the rumors and people being uneasy is what bothers her. She won't participate in discussion about it, and will walk away from those that do, it's not her place. That said, if sufficient evidence ever appeared to cast D'lios in a negative light, she will be against him. Until then, she'll remain [Neutral, leading towards With unless there is evidence]
Harri (once he gets to Dalibor), will have no problem with D'lios. Having lived in a Hold before shunning, he trusts those that run it. The only questions he'd have is how would a Lord Holder balance his responsibilities with being a Weyrleader. If pressed, Hand will say that the man should choose to step down from one position. The fact that he has not will cast the most suspicion for Harri. As he'll never seek an audience with D'lios, nor probably ever talk to him, and as a Holdless himself, he won't dare to be against the man. If anything, he would try to actively avoid him. [With]
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Chimera
Weyrling
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Post by Chimera on Sept 9, 2013 7:48:36 GMT -5
Nora and Aypoth: Ooooh. WAIT WHAT? Nora's not super-against D'lios, and with a very accepting, second-chance-giving pink dragon, she is waiting to see how he will fare as Weyrleader before deciding she hates him. It's fishy how he won the flight, but maybe even that was for good? On the other hand... Nora's being a bystander for this drama, as a weyrling's opinion isn't exactly an authority. That doesn't mean it won't get stated depending on how things go. Neutral
R'lan and Ainoth: Coming from a rather traditional family on his mother's side and a more..oddball, trader-descended family on his father's, he's torn on D'lios. He and Ainoth don't trust the man one bit, but both are scared of him. They're worried, but they will be hiding in the shadows as much as they can until graduation. And he doesn't want to transfer. Neutral
Dardranel: Politicka-whatta? Dardranel has very little knowledge on this subject. D'lios is weird though. Neutral
Lirmox and Lisk: Lirmox isn't jumping to conclusions. As a former Holdless he's wary of Lord Holders and their ilk, but people were the same way about the Holdless when they first arrived to the Weyr, and they weren't evil at all. D'lios may be a fresh start for Dalibor. And as a negotiator, Lirmox is very aggravated by the fresh wave of clashing. He's going with D'lios, however...With Lisk thinks that Bigwing shiny politicking people for stupid. No care - a.k.a. Neutral
Lanorun: Ugh. Another guy who's most certainly corrupt and will only grow his slimy ego during his term. Going to the Weyr was a bad idea. No one listened to him in his family, and now look where they are. Against
Akklyn: What a jerk weyr-leader. She agrees wholeheartedly with Kida on the Flight being rigged. Against
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A
Candidate
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Post by A on Sept 9, 2013 8:00:18 GMT -5
Talibor's just a Candidate, so I doubt many people care what he has to say, but he is against. He'll be respectful if near D'lios, or another adult rider who supports his claim, but views the incident as more evidence of Western backwardness and won't hesitate to tell other Candidates why one man was not meant to govern both Hold and Weyr. If anyone wants to get into a fight with him about it, feel free to let me know. He's not really the type to outright argue, but can be pretty damn patronizing.
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lee
Wingrider
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Post by lee on Sept 9, 2013 8:59:51 GMT -5
T'yer: suspicious, but having come fairly recently from Fort an knowing the older Weyr's opinion on Dali, respects the need to present a united front, and therefore isn't happy about all the division. He's mostly worried the 'antidote' wasn't any such thing, just an excuse, and now frets over Lenticuth's safety at every meal (and likewise, Lenticuth is probably demanding to eat before all his siblings without explaining why and pissing them off). If D'lios IS scheming, T'yer generally has faith in Avalle and the jr weyrwomen/weyrleader's ability to anticipate and thwart him. Team Avalle? Aka mostly neutral I suppose. Whatever she is presenting publicly, because he follows the Weyr.
Joshu: tricksy evil lordholderis Against
Braele: doesn't see the point in having an opinion because seriously what would it accomplish? She DOES think D'lios should step down as Lord Holder for the time he is Weyrleader, because how can anyone give both positions enough attention, and the Weyr is clearly the less negotiable of the two thanks to Flight determination. Highly unlikely she will mention this unless directly asked. If she does form an opinion on the issue, it will only be after considerable thought, it will be entirely independent of what anyone else thinks, and it will be irrevocable. At the moment, she is content to trust the dragons' judgement. As blandly neutral as it's possible to get.
F'dren: ordinarily wouldn't give two wherry shits except D'lios's cure put Mifth, the Weyr's senior queen and a number of other dragons in serious danger at a very suspicious time. He's furious and fuming, but his manifests itself only in dark, grumpy glowers over his klah mug which is...par for the course. Against, but...
Mifth: gently disagrees with his rider, and quietly reminds him at every opportunity that dragons just don't Impress skeevy people. Plus, Callistath chose Perbiath, and Callistath is a lady and wouldn't choose a schemy evil jerkface. Optimistic it will all be okay, and will possibly wear F'dren down using sheer cheerfulness. Just wants to be friends with Perbiath.
Falen: still thinking. She will go RABIDLY on one side or another. Leaning towards against just because it would be interesting character development to have her agreeing with people she was ready to kick out of the Weyr on the last issue, but if the for side needs a villain, she's available. LET ME KNOW. Will possibly transfer/be transferred by the end of this.
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Kila
Sr. Weyrleader
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Post by Kila on Sept 9, 2013 9:24:25 GMT -5
O'sho: D'lios and the former Weyrleader rubbed each other the wrong way from the start. O'sho is less than thrilled about his replacement, though he takes special care to appear outwardly calm and unruffled about it to reassure others. He does not think that it is wise or responsible for one person to hold two important, demanding positions. Though D'lios went through Weyrlinghood in Dalibor, O'sho does not think he knows enough of the Weyr to lead it. He does not trust the Lord Holder turned Weyrleader and suspects that he won by deceit. He feels partially responsible for stepping down and not encouraging Daidoroth to chase. (Against)
Jasra: Jasra has an old chip on her shoulder about any sort of bias based on position or class. Though she has always defended the humble and poor with this, she thinks it is only fair that it applies to the high and mighty as well. She was miffed to hear people grumbling about D'lios's ineligibility because of his former rank, so she is inclined to support him out of principle. So long as he upholds all of his responsibilities and does a good job, she is for him. (For)
Y'nis: Chaos to the max! Y'nis hitherto disliked D'lios for abandoning the Renegade's cause after his precious impression, but is willing to forgive. He admires the Lord Holder's resourcefulness and ability to get what he wants. Dalibor has not always been good to him, so in a spiteful way he likes how the situation ruffles the weyrfolk's feathers. He will probably bring it up often and play the devil's advocate to get a rise out of people, troublemaker that he is. (For)
Tr'ayne: Doesn't care but is generally spiteful. (Neutral)
Sol: Conflicted. She feels like she should be against D'lios out of loyalty to her Weyr and her leaders, but knows that he did win the flight. Callistath chose Perbaith even after the Brown was wounded and on the same level as the Dalibor dragons. Is keeping her opinions to herself. Wants what is right but also what is best for the Weyr. (Neutral)
Sh'len: No idea what he should think. Shies away from the anger and conflict that comes with the subject. (Neutral)
Nadya: Couldn't care less. (Neutral)
D'lios: STOKED!
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Raining
Wherling
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Post by Raining on Sept 9, 2013 9:28:59 GMT -5
Okay so.
Aleksandr;; He's an oblivious lil... butt, but an opinionated butt! Sure he'll hear about what happened (maybe both sides?) He'd be skeptical about all the rumors, and feeling sort of awkward about them. But when it comes down to it 'sandr is loyal to what he's familiar with -- even if that means he'll be against Lord D'lios. But like I said, he doesn't even try and understand politics.... so [Neutral/ Cautiously Against].
Saowyn;; She'd liked to believe that their new weyrleader is a good person. Coming from a holdless background she's seen all kinds of people, and most are more than what they appear to be or... in some cases they arent't what people believe them to be. She will most likely ignore all the rumours about what happened at the gathering, and just go with it. [With]
Although Saosk knowing the kinds of people Saowyn has been with (looking through her memories) D'lios can't be trusted because people can be more than what they seem. He's against but Saowyn will be keeping an eye on him.
Riocard;; He believes the rumors and accusations are just the competitors lashing out because they lost. In his eyes Lord D'lios won fair and square, and he respects that. But Riocard's loyalty isn't so easily won... he's With D'lios but in no way is he loyal.
(aha two candidates so these won't go very far BUT ah well. xD)
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twitchie
Wingrider
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"I'm not bossy; I just have better ideas."
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Post by twitchie on Sept 9, 2013 9:53:17 GMT -5
Yrri & Perith: Yrri would lean more toward neutral, but if choosing a side she would be against the whole thing. Mainly she would be influenced by Perith's disapproval of the whole affair. Perith is very against[/b] the new weyrleader and strongly believes the flight was indeed rigged by the whole meat-cure drug effect. Ka'mond & Abyrath: Ka'mond isn't a judgmental person, so he is rather calmly neutral. He has worries about the new leadership, but he is willing to give D'lios a chance. Abyrath is more than happy to give the warmest wishes to the 'underdogs' and doesn't see anything wrong with what happened. Tsktael & Tsktsk: Tsktael doesn't care either way, he doesn't feel concerned or miffed by any of it. Tsktsk just thinks all gold shiny-butts are wherry-brained and she doesn't understand what the big deal is. Neutral[/b] Mleynn: Mleynn thinks the flight was decided by the dragons, and despite the fact its going to cause trouble, what happened was not preventable. Neutral but not opposed. [/b]
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Post by Digitalis on Sept 9, 2013 11:49:15 GMT -5
Tamren: is definitely for D'lios. He thinks it's cool that a brownrider managed to become Weyrleader, as well as the whole Lord Holder thing, and as long as he won the flight fair and square...D'lios seems like the type of person Tamren'd want to imitate. He'll be glad to say so, too, if asked--not that anyone particularly cares what a candidate thinks. XD
Phaenna: is completely and utterly neutral on this issue, because opinions make people upset and people are scary.
Anya: doesn't care that much about it, but is tentatively against D'lios. She thinks the flight was kind of fishy overall. Also, he should stick to running his Hold and leave the Weyrleadership to the ones who actually live there. Penteryth could not care less what the leadership is doing as long as the Thread gets fought on time, so she is neutral.
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Chek
Weyrlingmaster
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Post by Chek on Sept 9, 2013 16:47:39 GMT -5
F'reki – Freki is uneasy about the whole situation, but he’s withholding judgment, for now. But if D’lios’s actions endanger his weyrlings or past wherlings? Hooo boy. Neutral
H'mod – H’mod could not nope any harder. It is literally not possible. COMPLETELY AGAINST
Valha – Valha is staying quiet on the matter, for the most part, but she’d been spending more and more time away from the Weyr outside of drills and Threadfall; her personal weyr has started looking rather…abandoned of late. Not saying anything, but yeah, she’s against.
Rennin – Rennin has certainly had more to draw lately. But she is also setting up hidey holes outside the Weyr again…. Nervously neutral
Mi'mir – Mimi dun care, though Kinni is not pleased because her shipping was RUINED. She totally ships Callistath<3Akanith, you see, and, well…yeah. Mi’mir NEUTRAL, Kinnisoth AGAINST
Embla – Embla is very excited by this madness, and has been swapping letters and messages hard and fast since it happened. She’s FOR this sort of intrigue, but AGAINST the idea of a Weyrleader Lord Holder. She evens out neutral
Damali – Like her Pridesecond, she’s staying fairly quiet on the matter, though there have perhaps been some hints that she is considering getting permission to relocate her Pride to Crescent for the time being; since, you know, they could be legit investigating a murder! Damali is quietly AGAINST
Baharl, Oddinya, Burleinherjar are all neutral. Dragonriders don’t effect any of them much, and they will likely only form concrete opinions if someone intentionally sways them to one side or the other.
Yhimere – Yhimere had to stop Yhisk from going and biting D’lios in the face, sooo….yeah.
Basilidisi Dizzy is firmly against, but seeing as she is against dragons in general due to stark terror, that is to be expected.
Tius – Tius is very worried about the change in the political climate. He’ll only support D’lios is the man willingly acts as a figurehead only for one position or the other; it’s not fair to his people and dangerous besides to do otherwise.
Loki – Loki gives no craps. It’s likely he doesn’t actually know there has been a change in Weyr leadership at all, yet, since he’s…occupied.
And… Hanibaal, even though he’s not in game yet – He finds the whole mess very, very interesting, and is more than happy to take ruthless advantage of the fact that Western’s Lord is going to be quite distracted going into the future. For
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Azhdarchid
Jr. Weyrwoman
azhct[M:-1490]
Totes.
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Post by Azhdarchid on Sept 9, 2013 19:14:06 GMT -5
L'xon (Against) - But feels ashamed because at least part of that is him being mad about what happened to Harvey. And the only reason he's against is he feels like he just got this dragonrider thing down...and now "holders" are trying to get back in the mix. So he's not going to be too vocal about it unless someone takes the time to convince him. Tussbuul (Neutral) - Doesn't care. Will elect Audren for President if Pern ever discovers democracy. Q'sis (Against?) - Hurf. Very likely to play both sides if there's something in it for him. Ghols (Against) - It's not personal aside from the fact that D'lios is a dumb holder and should not be trusted to manage more than a barn. But she knows in her heart that he rigged the Flight and is pretty annoyed/ashamed that Flights CAN be rigged. Slosk (Neutral) - Wants to know how this change in leadership affects the number of fish carelessly left on the docks before he makes any decisions.
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mopsy93
Candidate
mopct[M:0]
Posts: 62
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Post by mopsy93 on Sept 9, 2013 20:03:21 GMT -5
Carissa: (Undecided for now) She doesn't honestly know what to make of the whole situation. She's pretty much hoping that this doesn't happen again and blows over quickly, and that's a whole lot of wishful thinking. As time goes on might be one of the less vocal (and probably one of the least likely to do anything drastic) anti D'lios people.
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Dragonwher
Weyrling
dract[M:215]
A wild Tomboy appears!
Posts: 214
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Post by Dragonwher on Sept 9, 2013 20:44:39 GMT -5
WIP Charrie opinions:
C'ero: "Lord Holders don't need dragons and they do not sharding need to be mucking about in Weyr Politics. Dovahkiith agrees with me!".(AGAINST)
Jirazil: "well...this certainly sucks shell harder than hearing Jirask caterwaul in a fight over a ladywher. How the shards did a Lord Holder get his greedy fingers in the Weyr's bubblypie I wonder...". (Against and wary of sharing that opinion)
Active Charrie opinions
Mira: She was unaware till she heard the gossip as to who won that abrupt Flight. As she used to call the Hold D'lios lords over home till Malinoth walked in she would be uncertain of his motives. But Malinoth's attitude for anyone of Rank has seemed to focus solely on D'lios and sadly Callistath/Avalle. Meridia for her part may join Quince on Honking her dislike of this multitasking "Weyr Lorder" (Against not that Weyrlings have squat to say on the matter)
Randi: This whole situation stinks to the boy; but he can't figure out why so he settled to hate the guy merely because the proceedings skeeve his sister out badly. (Against)
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Maggie
Pridesecond
magct[M:-95]
Posts: 555
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Post by Maggie on Sept 9, 2013 21:11:42 GMT -5
Genner: Against. He thinks all hold-folk are scum and that D'lios is lying, murdering scum.
G'lin: Tentatively against, although his opinion comes mostly from those around him. And both Ana and Doom think D'lios has horrible fashion sense.
Dawn: Neutral but wary. She wants to see the man prove himself. Nessie thinks that the whole thing is a veryinteresting social experiment and is moridly curious as to how it all turns out.
Kaydian: Neutral, but he's afraid of anyone who's very authoritative, so he'll always be nice and pleasant to everyone.
Tamarine: Neutral, it doesn't affect her life too much yet.
Ida: Neutral, but mildly favourable. She looks out dor herself first and foremost so she keeps her own counsel. Deep down, she does admire his machiavellian ambitions, but she will never voice this.
Maelie: tentatively for. He's the Weyrleader, she will respect that aslong as conditions don't change for the worse.
Talin: Against. He has done nothing to investigate who was poisoning herdbeast and therefore potentially killingher son. She will stay loyally at Dalibor regardless because she feels that it is important that it have a strong interior defense against whatever may come at them, even if it is their Weyrleader.
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Serah
Wingsecond
serct[M:-148]
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Post by Serah on Sept 9, 2013 21:17:28 GMT -5
C'tan: Not for, but not against either. He will reserve judgement until he knows a bit more about the new Weyrleader.
Z'eri: Highly against. He didn't like the fact that the Lord Holder had Impressed, and now with him being both a Lord Holder and a Weyrleader, it just rubs the Purplerider the wrong way.
A'mor: Against. He is highly unhappy about the results of Callistath's Flight, but he understands that there is nothing he could have done to make it end any differently.
B'nyur: Neutral. He doesn't like D'lios, per se, but he never truly had a problem with him. If he ends up making a decision that is bad for the Weyr, however, his opinion is highly likely to change.
F'vyr: Neutral. He's never had any dealings with D'lios, so he is reserving judgement.
Lyna: Neutral. She doesn't really know D'lios, but she hopes he will be good for the Weyr.
Naima: Trying to be neutral, but leaning towards against. She doesn't like the Brownrider. She wishes one of the other Chasers had caught Callistath.
Aelynn: Neutral. She's a Candidate with little opinion.
Ahburn: Against. He doesn't believe that a Lord Holder should've Impressed in the first place, let alone hold the title of Weyrleader in the first place.
Kiaja: Neutral. He knows that Browns can catch a Gold in Flight, but he's unsure of what to think of the rider of the Brown that caught Callistath.
Ryiah: Kind of for. Being formerly holdless, she knows what it's like to have people judging based on what they know (or think they know) of someone. She just wants to give those who are judged unfavorably a chance.
Szene: Highly against. She hates that a Lord Holder Impressed. She also dislikes that this Holder's dragon caught a Queen.
Pailu: Neither for nor against. With her being a Wher handler, dragon affairs do not effect her much if at all.
Awnia: Neutral. She's a Wher Candidate, so she doesn't think this will effect her much.
Pherae: Against. She's not particularly a people person. She can stand most people, but not D'lios.
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maruset
Wingrider
marct[M:-420]
Posts: 590
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Post by maruset on Sept 10, 2013 9:37:55 GMT -5
Benal Definitely not a happy camper, even if she's not currently in play. Feel free to reference her grumblings about it, though that may prove interesting when she is outed as tampering with candidates. Against
Iola Iola will be polite, though she's mostly neutral. Her theory is that this is only going to last until the next flight. However, even after that, D'lios will still be Lord Holder. Better to not completely burn any bridges. She's still not in favor of him trying to be in charge of two places at once. However, she's willing to stay Neutral.
However, -Jainath- is very much not in favor of D'lios, and will ignore him and his dragon. so very, very Against
Letorin He's more neutral at the moment, though he is taking the opportunity to sketch out a lot of the drama around him. And to draw out D'lios and his dragon. Though he's not sure how well the man can actually run a hold and be a decent weyrleader. But he's also aware he's a candidate, and nobody cares on his opinions. Neutral
Orkia So much against. Lord Holders are holders, and Weyrleaders are people of the weyr. He doesn't live in the weyr, he should not be a weyrleader. Simple as that. Against
Makkoi He doesn't really care much either way. The man may be weyrleader, but he cannot force the weyr to do anything, not when half of the place may just well ignore it. There is one junior weyrleader, and the former senior weyrleader is still there. Besides, as a handler, he doesn't deal much with the dragons and such. He's willing to let it go, until something happens that affects him or his child. Neutral
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Ondine
Jr. Weyrleader
ondct[M:-155]
Posts: 436
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Post by Ondine on Sept 12, 2013 22:12:30 GMT -5
Ondine: Generally unhappy with the idea of a Lord Holder as Weyrleader, she's of the opinion that the two have been separated for a reason. He has too many responsibilities to the people under him to do his job effectively at both. She does not, however, speak out. She's too busy as a dragonhealer and healer to get involved in politics, and it has no place in the infirmary. (Against)
Z'an: Z'an is furious that the mockery of a flight ended with his dragon seriously hurt, and is convinced that the flight shouldn't be valid, since nearly every other dragon was practically incapacitated, and a number were unable to fly. He's worried now that it was a setup, especially since Peri flew so well, and D'lios made the antidote. No man can serve at both Hold and Weyr, and they're separated and have been for good reason. He feels somewhat responsible, as the former winner of Callistath's flight, that this is his fault because he couldn't keep D'lios from winning. To most people, Z'an has graciously accepted his defeat and has returned to care for his dragon and tend to his Wing. This is, however, hardly the case, and he's using his newfound free time for something.... (Against)
Qari: Largely of the same opinion as a few other of the Waroth babies, she's worried that D'lios has taken on far more than he can handle, and that Western and Dalibor will both suffer from that bad choice. As a Harper, she knows quite a bit of history and thinks that this decision is not well served by history. Her morose dragon, on the other hand, was fascinated by all the near-death of the flight, and without the Queen even being that violent! (Against)
Garund and Maal: They're both unsure why this is such a bad thing, and are reserving judgment. (Neutral)
Maren, Maihri, Abranna, Shino: They're both unsure quite what this means, but it doesn't seem like it's a good thing. Shouldn't a Lord Holder actually focus on his Hold and the people under him? (Tentatively Against)
Lyrnn: The Wherlingmaster is worried about changes that will negatively impact the candidates that come to him and his charges. He's also concerned that the handler's feelings about this event will be reflected in their whers, and might even cause them to come to blows. As such, he's asked his handlers to keep it peaceful, but otherwise isn't discouraging discussion, knowing that if it's allowed to fester it might be much worse. He has, however, kept himself from vocalizing this opinion to most people. (Against)
Ciali: Following the lead of both her sister and Prideleader, the blackhandler is studiously silent about all of this, but dead set against his ascension. She refuses to let politics get in the way of business as Pridesecond, and has forbidden Cialisk from taking advantage of all of this in any way. Not that he's listening, and has quietly begun feeling out the other whers in his pride for how they or their handlers feel. (Against)
Kalet: The entire thing reeks of deceit and trickery, and Kalet is dead set against that. He does not, however, care so much so long as the whers are left undisturbed, and the people of Western do not suffer. Kask takes up his time, so it's not like he can really care that much about politics, and the whole situation simply doesn't sit well with him. (Mostly Neutral)
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Rii
Wingleader
riict[M:420]
RP demon hungers...
Posts: 803
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Post by Rii on Sept 13, 2013 22:30:12 GMT -5
T'yandon is not pleased with the Flight or its results. He hasn't forgotten that the "antidote" came from D'lios. He also knows that Weyrleader and Lord Holder are both full-time jobs, and there's no way that anyone can fulfill all the duties appropriately. In addition to this, D'lios does not know the Weyr or its ways, or care about the people in it - so he'd make a very poor leader for Dalibor. He assesses D'lios as just wanting the power without being able to handle the responsibility. (Against)
Reylia as a Hold Steward's daughter and a wingsecond knows full well that there's a lot of work involved in both - too much for one person. Also, she was rooting for her wingleader, Z'an. (Against)
Elianne lost the Flight because of Maeradith's poor flying, and saw good dragons get injured from it. She's disgusted with the whole thing. Maeradith refuses to acknowledge Callistath and Perbiath - or their riders - as proper leaders. (Against)
G'dan is largely uncertain what to do. He doesn't think this will go well at all, and that tradition has turned against them. Still, he wants to observe first - and he probably wouldn't speak out anyway. (Against leaning Neutral)
M'aaz does not like a Lord Holder being Weyrleader. It is not the way of things. He should be one or the other, not both, because Weyr and Hold must remain autonomous. It's in the Charter. (Against)
V'kyr knows as a weyrling his opinion doesn't really count, but he's weyrbred and really doesn't think someone who spends no time in the Weyr would know how to run it. Also, he suspects his dad doesn't approve of D'lios, and that carries weight for him. (Against)
Norilana doesn't have much of an opinion, but she has zero respect for Holders and Lord Holders and their ilk. After all, she was born Holdless. None of her brothers have anything good to say about him, either. Stinking entitled Holders... (Against)
Sora doesn't really care, not that anyone would ask anyway. But she's been the reserved wait-and-see type for a long time. If he messes things up? That 'not caring' will probably change. (Neutral)
Der doesn't intend to have anything to do with Weyr politics thank you very much because people don't really fall into his realm of interest. (Neutral)
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Lan
Weyrlingmaster
lanct[M:-1025]
Nomming ALL the kidpets!
Posts: 1,266
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Post by Lan on Sept 17, 2013 2:21:30 GMT -5
Nimara & Waroth are very anti-D'lios. Nimara will be a bit less vocal about this matter and will keep Waroth in check, but as they have been at Dalibor since the beginning they know better than to trust D'lios. [AGAINST]
F'ton & Poseith are unsure. They do not have a whole lot of experience with D'lios and his brown dragon, but they are trying to keep an open mind. [NEUTRAL]
A'bar & Ablath believe that any child of the renegades is inherently bad. [AGAINST]
Darryl & Dask do not really care either. As long as his family is protected, Darryl is fine. Furthermore, D'lios helped them with the smokeweed problem, right? He can't be that bad of a guy. [NEUTRAL, LEANS FOR]
Physicero & Physisk are transferring back to Frontier Weyr to be with their family due to certain circumstances. I CHANGE MY MIND. PHYSICERO AND PHYSISK FOREVER. THEY ARE NEUTRAL/DON'T CARE.
Tesla & Tessk think that something fishy is up, but otherwise see nothing to outwardly complain about. [NEUTRAL, LEANS AGAINST]
S'in & Nemeth acknowledge that D'lios won fair and square. Nemeth is a bit suspicious and ready to pounce upon D'lios' first misstep, while S'in is eager to take advantage of the possible opportunities. [FOR, assuming D'lios isn't against greenrider wingseconds]
Lonet & Losk may be taking this opportunity to finish Master's training. Yep. We'll see.
Andru(sk) & Ask do not meddle in the affairs of dragonriders, for whers are obviously where it's at. [NEUTRAL]
Dota & Dosk think D'lios won fair and square, right? Dota's not sure about the affairs of the Weyr still, but D'lios did help and so he must be a good guy, right? [FOR?]
Kirryl is a PRECIOUS BABY and has no opinion. [NULL SET]
Hanei & Noveth are uncertain about D'lios. Hanei is more willing to follow her father and fall in line against someone power-hungry enough to run a Hold and a Weyr, Noveth finds the change interesting. [COMPLICATED]
K'oa & Geth think D'lios is an arrogant bastard. [AGAINST]
Yentil thinks everything sucks anyways. Maybe someone not raised in a Weyr could do some good. [FOR]
Raksit & Jolasudth are still on the fence. She has not experienced much of D'lios so she has decided not to judge him... yet. Jolasudth wonders if D'lios is tasty. [NEUTRAL]
Matthaus is pretty sure Penny doesn't like D'lios. Solid decision-making. [AGAINST]
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